[personal profile] winterlion
Here's an interesting article:
Flirting women affect how men view mates: study
The title really says a lot.

As per usual it's a news story. Doesn't say where it's being published. It does sound about right though.
I like the advice at the end:
"This doesn't mean that what is natural in biological terms is necessarily good," he said. "People still have the ability to make choices."
He suggests more awareness of these tendencies can be useful for people in relationships.
"When a man goes out and experiences these twinges of feelings, he should know there is a reason for it, and that it may not be because he is unhappy," he said.
"These behaviours can be superseded and don't have to shape the way we behave."


Not much to add as I'm rather busy. However this came through the wire and it is Interesting!

edit: I like stuff like this because it helps explain underlying instincts - and it's a lot easier to override instincts when one's aware of it. however: I like the local medievalists' response: Flirting is open and friendly communication with no expectations. Lechery is flirting with intentions. Lechery's perfectly fine between folks for whom it's appropriate of course :) Flirting - in this sense - should always be okay.

Date: 2007-03-31 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrey-sucks.livejournal.com
Yeah, so I guess women should act like asexual nuns. Women who flirt are all sluts and whores anyway! How dare women express their sexuality!

Date: 2007-03-31 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
I tend to interpret it as "if men get caught up in this crap they're immature backwards creeps".
it also implies: flirting is good way to find a potential lover.

Date: 2007-03-31 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Not certain about your handle: I'm from Surrey, and it's god's own county in god's own country. However, I don't disagree with the sarcasm in your comment, though.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
You're from the original Surrey :)

I live in the one she chose her handle from... a place that's full of rednecks, criminals and car thieves. It has sections where (it used to be) the police wouldn't go without sufficient numbers and backup. It has a number of other people too but that - and the lack of access to services or anywhere decent to go - makes it kind of suck here.

Date: 2007-03-31 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrey-sucks.livejournal.com
As winterlion said, I'm refrring to Surrey, BC, and Surrey, BC sucks. So if you're going to be upset about my LJ name, at least know what I am referring to.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
(fair note: [livejournal.com profile] johnny9fingers is from Surrey, UK.
Different one. It's the original Surrey and really nothing like the one I live in....

I have more thoughts on this whole article but haven't yet the words to describe it... perhaps that: outgoing and friendly is healthy. people who put their responsibility outside of their own consciousness (instincts, other people) should never be allowed to make decisions involving other people. For instance: in deciding they're attracted or distracted by women declaring the words you posted. GAH!
I'd rather live in a society where both men and women can express their sexuality with health. I certainly don't come from such a place - I wasn't permitted to (for the most part) until I came down here.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raenshadoe.livejournal.com
You know, I think most of us have known this information on one level or another for years. But that's okay. Studies keep the psychologists busy. *smiles*

I don't necessarily think it says men are immature, though.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
'struth that. Psychologists like to be kept busy.

I would say (as per above) - anyone who breaks trust with someone without taking responsibility - are darn immature.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] particle-man6.livejournal.com
Psychology usually is good at pointing out that people act according to arational rules. They follow instincts, which are not always rational. This is neither a good nor a bad thing, but a thing to be aware of. We can sometimes act rationally (I think) but often not as much as we think we can, and certainly it is not our default state of being.

Date: 2007-03-31 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
That's definitely correct.

I was brought up with the expectation I was to be rational always.... (my own expectation? Maybe. I'm still not sure though)

Date: 2007-04-01 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenrisfox.livejournal.com
"The more you learn, the less you know."

Date: 2007-04-02 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterlion.livejournal.com
True that. But it's so much fun to look....
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